— Until Lately is the opening track from your new album coming out in 2022. Is it pointing in the direction of how the album is going to sound or is the album going to be stylistically diverse? If so, what is the song's part sonically and story-wise in the context of the album?
— Our new album will essentially have an A side, primarily comprised of songs that I wrote, and a B side made up of songs that Matt primarily wrote, although all of them have some element of collaboration between the both of us. The first side is more earnest, acoustic pop, and the second goes off the deep end into experimental noise pop. Until Lately, in particular, tells a coming-of-age story. Like a couple of other songs on the first half of the album, it grapples with insecurities people can face as kids that linger with them through adulthood but gradually get easier to deal with. 'Cause at a certain point you just decide it becomes exhausting to give these trivial issues unnecessary space in your brain.
The album as a whole is definitely different from our previous releases, and Until Lately is different from other songs within the album, but in my opinion if you have the same vocals throughout differently styled songs, that weaves them all together. We don't want to be pigeonholed into one specific genre and I think we'll always be exploring different styles and genres depending on what we want to make at the time.